Friday, October 17, 2014

Superman and Captain America



A little while ago, I was musing whether the next Captain America movie would be subtitled Civil War and with the announcement that Robert Downey Jr. has joined the cast, that may just become a reality.  It seems a little soon to be getting into the whole Civil War story line and the cast of characters involved is bound to be different from the comics. That said, I was very happy with how the Winter Soldier story was condensed and adapted, so I have faith in the filmmakers and look forward to the sequel.

10 comments:

Dr. OTR said...

I never thought about this before, but is Superman even a US citizen? His parents weren't citizens, and he wasn't born in the US. Did he ever take out naturalization papers? Given that he had no passport or other documents from his place or birth, did he have to apply for refugee status?
I'm sure the opposing parties would leap on these issues.

Bob Greenwade said...

I would hope that the story behind this cover would include at least an oblique reference to Super-Soldier, the Amalgam character that combined these two.

Anyway, I'd certainly vote for a Rogers-Kent ticket. (I'm not so sure about a Kent-Rogers possibility; Kal-El is not a natural-born US citizen, and thus not eligible to become President.)

Back to the Amalgam event, I do hope that someday we can see Dark Claw on a cover. There aren't that many images of that Batman/Wolverine combination, of course, so it'd likely be the job of finding art to go with him rather than the other way about. In short, I won't hold my breath... but I'm prepared to be pleasantly surprised, someday.

For that matter, I'm still hoping for a return of Iron Beetle -- maybe team him up with Ms. Marvel colored to match Wonder Woman, as Ms. Wonder, with Access getting ready to recruit more!

Anonymous said...

I can just picture the two of them teaming up against the Red Skull and Baron Blitzkrieg. Bravo!

diana green said...

As noted in the imaginary story "President Superman", about a dream that Jimmy had when conked upside the head, we are reminded that only native born Americans can be President, so the Big Guy in ineligible. Despite this, there were two other stories involving President Superman, one set during the Armageddon event and the other being a Barack Obama pastiche from Final Crisis #7 and the new 52's Action Comics #9.
Still, a fun idea that would be a great read. Clearly, Cap could be President, but who would be his Vice President- possibly Liberty Belle?

Anonymous said...

And they could be having a three way with Wonder Woman as they both know her intimately. ;))

Woodclaw said...

If my comic-fu is up to date, pre-crisis Superman was naturalized as a U.S. citizen with a special presidential decree, after an application from the United Nations.

The post-crisis continuity was much less clearer and it actually never really addressed the subject. As a matter of fact they never actually addressed the subject of the Kent adoption, since John Byrne found easier to remove the deal completly by having a very convenient snowstorm keeping the Kents away from Smallville for three months or so.

Ben Woods said...

In the Byrne's Post-Crisis re-imagining, the rocket that Kal-El's parents placed him in was also a "birthing matrix," which means that he was technically "born" in Kansas. I'm not even sure if that origin story still stands past the last few Crisis-type events, but it did at one time.

Bob Buethe said...

US law states that "a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States" qualifies as a "natural-born citizen."

Bob Greenwade said...

Good research work there, Other Bob. That moves Supes from definitely not eligible to a somewhat grey area (it depends on how old he was when regarded as "shown" to have been born on Krypton -- which varies from one version of Supes to another -- and what the definition of "shown" is.)

In any event, even if Kal-El is ineligible to be President, he can still be Vice-President. Only the President has to be a natural-born citizen.

Bob Buethe said...

I can't take the credit. This same discussion took place on another comics forum a couple of years ago, and someone there posted the definition of citizenship.

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